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	<title>Comments on: VDI:  VMware View 3 Premier vs. Citrix XenDesktop Enterprise 2.1</title>
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		<title>By: Tolly Group releases another Citrix vs. VMware comparison - boche.net - VMware Virtualization Evangelist</title>
		<link>http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/02/09/vdi-vmware-view-3-premier-vs-citrix-xendesktop-enterprise-21/comment-page-1/#comment-708</link>
		<dc:creator>Tolly Group releases another Citrix vs. VMware comparison - boche.net - VMware Virtualization Evangelist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] jason on Apr.15, 2009, under Virtualization A few months ago, The Tolly Group released a report comparing Citrix and VMware VDI [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] jason on Apr.15, 2009, under Virtualization A few months ago, The Tolly Group released a report comparing Citrix and VMware VDI [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Virtual Desktop Implimentaion VMware View 3 Premier vs. Citrix XenDesktop Enterprise 2.1 &#124; Storage Informer</title>
		<link>http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/02/09/vdi-vmware-view-3-premier-vs-citrix-xendesktop-enterprise-21/comment-page-1/#comment-630</link>
		<dc:creator>Virtual Desktop Implimentaion VMware View 3 Premier vs. Citrix XenDesktop Enterprise 2.1 &#124; Storage Informer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] pdf can be downloaded here. I couldn&#8217;t cut text from the pdf (pet peeve), but Jason Boche quotes the findings:  VMware View [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] pdf can be downloaded here. I couldn&#8217;t cut text from the pdf (pet peeve), but Jason Boche quotes the findings:  VMware View [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Shadwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Shadwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was unable to download the report (damn hotel wireless network keeps timing out) but one thing that sadly seems to be missing from the comparison is the lack of cross platform support for the client side. One area that Citrix is excellent at is providing client software for a virtually (excuse the pun) and client including Mac OS X and mobile devices.
I am testing XenDesktop purely for this fact because VMware doesn&#039;t provide a client that runs on OS X.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was unable to download the report (damn hotel wireless network keeps timing out) but one thing that sadly seems to be missing from the comparison is the lack of cross platform support for the client side. One area that Citrix is excellent at is providing client software for a virtually (excuse the pun) and client including Mac OS X and mobile devices.<br />
I am testing XenDesktop purely for this fact because VMware doesn&#8217;t provide a client that runs on OS X.</p>
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		<title>By: VDI vergelijking: VMware View 3 versus XenDesktop Enterprise 2.1 &#171; EarlyBert</title>
		<link>http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/02/09/vdi-vmware-view-3-premier-vs-citrix-xendesktop-enterprise-21/comment-page-1/#comment-548</link>
		<dc:creator>VDI vergelijking: VMware View 3 versus XenDesktop Enterprise 2.1 &#171; EarlyBert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bron: Jason Boche. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Howarth</title>
		<link>http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/02/09/vdi-vmware-view-3-premier-vs-citrix-xendesktop-enterprise-21/comment-page-1/#comment-547</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Howarth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Max just where should I start,

VMWare compares its latest product to a Citrix product that was released 6 months ago. 

OK so it was released 6 Months ago or is it 2 years ago.   get your facts straight, also XD v3 was released release what 7 days ago.  get real

Key terms that VMW uses…user experience equivalent on LAN…

Yes that is correct, the user experiance is equivalent on a LAN.
Notice they did not compare the direct desktop feature of Lan connected workstations by XenDesktop. and what exactly does that mean???  are you admiting that your thinclient software is crap ;)

So what VMWare is saying is that they are almost the same user experience…

No they are not Trolly is.  slight difference.

nevermind about things like remote users, wifi connected users, 

Remeber that VMware ship a SSL gateway with their product for free and do not force the client to purchase a CAG to get the same functionality,  Citrixs comment on this was (well it is an Enterprise product and They will have one)

high graphic/HD users. I will give you one point, however VMware&#039;s next version will support HP&#039;s RGS Sun Appliance Link Protocol (ALP), Teradici PC-over-IP and Wyse TCX

but at the end of the day Views Remote Display method is via RDP.  further portICA is not the same as XenAPP ica.  so yes the experiance is the equivalent.

That is like saying that XenServer 5.0 is nearly equivalent with ESX 3.5 update 2… 

Now that is your most stupid statement yet, XenServer 5 is no where near as good a ESX 3.5 update 2 and by the way U2 is only one minor release back ESX 3.5 is currently at U3.  before you slag get your facts straight.


Oh and XenServer is free with XenDesktop. 

Now the funny thing here is so&#039;s ESX 3.5 Enterprise free with Veiw license. 

so what is you point here,


hmmm makes you rethink what this article is stating

Not really.

further,  VMware&#039;s Linked Clone technology is available at a smaller uplift to get the equilivient from Citrix you need Citrix Provisioning Server (and you have to purchase the Platinium version. and on top of that, VMware offer Offline desktop so VDI users can work when not connected to a Network,  not that is something Citrix does not do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Max just where should I start,</p>
<p>VMWare compares its latest product to a Citrix product that was released 6 months ago. </p>
<p>OK so it was released 6 Months ago or is it 2 years ago.   get your facts straight, also XD v3 was released release what 7 days ago.  get real</p>
<p>Key terms that VMW uses…user experience equivalent on LAN…</p>
<p>Yes that is correct, the user experiance is equivalent on a LAN.<br />
Notice they did not compare the direct desktop feature of Lan connected workstations by XenDesktop. and what exactly does that mean???  are you admiting that your thinclient software is crap <img src='http://www.boche.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So what VMWare is saying is that they are almost the same user experience…</p>
<p>No they are not Trolly is.  slight difference.</p>
<p>nevermind about things like remote users, wifi connected users, </p>
<p>Remeber that VMware ship a SSL gateway with their product for free and do not force the client to purchase a CAG to get the same functionality,  Citrixs comment on this was (well it is an Enterprise product and They will have one)</p>
<p>high graphic/HD users. I will give you one point, however VMware&#8217;s next version will support HP&#8217;s RGS Sun Appliance Link Protocol (ALP), Teradici PC-over-IP and Wyse TCX</p>
<p>but at the end of the day Views Remote Display method is via RDP.  further portICA is not the same as XenAPP ica.  so yes the experiance is the equivalent.</p>
<p>That is like saying that XenServer 5.0 is nearly equivalent with ESX 3.5 update 2… </p>
<p>Now that is your most stupid statement yet, XenServer 5 is no where near as good a ESX 3.5 update 2 and by the way U2 is only one minor release back ESX 3.5 is currently at U3.  before you slag get your facts straight.</p>
<p>Oh and XenServer is free with XenDesktop. </p>
<p>Now the funny thing here is so&#8217;s ESX 3.5 Enterprise free with Veiw license. </p>
<p>so what is you point here,</p>
<p>hmmm makes you rethink what this article is stating</p>
<p>Not really.</p>
<p>further,  VMware&#8217;s Linked Clone technology is available at a smaller uplift to get the equilivient from Citrix you need Citrix Provisioning Server (and you have to purchase the Platinium version. and on top of that, VMware offer Offline desktop so VDI users can work when not connected to a Network,  not that is something Citrix does not do.</p>
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		<title>By: MartijnL</title>
		<link>http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/02/09/vdi-vmware-view-3-premier-vs-citrix-xendesktop-enterprise-21/comment-page-1/#comment-546</link>
		<dc:creator>MartijnL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify: Virtual Infrastructure is also free with the mentioned Premier Bundle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify: Virtual Infrastructure is also free with the mentioned Premier Bundle.</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
		<link>http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/02/09/vdi-vmware-view-3-premier-vs-citrix-xendesktop-enterprise-21/comment-page-1/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and Citrix declined to comment.  I heard somewhere that Citrix is a VMWare partner and as bound by the VMWare contract they cannot participate in direct comparisons of competitive products....dunno if it is true...just a rumor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and Citrix declined to comment.  I heard somewhere that Citrix is a VMWare partner and as bound by the VMWare contract they cannot participate in direct comparisons of competitive products&#8230;.dunno if it is true&#8230;just a rumor.</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
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		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VMWare compares its latest product to a Citrix product that was released 6 months ago.  Key terms that VMW uses...user experience equivalent on LAN...Notice they did not compare the direct desktop feature of Lan connected workstations by XenDesktop.  So what VMWare is saying is that they are almost the same user experience...nevermind about things like remote users, wifi connected users, high graphic/HD users.  So in short the latest version of VDM now View are nearly on par (with noted exceptions) with the XD released two versions ago...  That is like saying that XenServer 5.0 is nearly equivalent with ESX 3.5 update 2...  Oh and XenServer is free with XenDesktop. hmmm makes you rethink what this article is stating</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VMWare compares its latest product to a Citrix product that was released 6 months ago.  Key terms that VMW uses&#8230;user experience equivalent on LAN&#8230;Notice they did not compare the direct desktop feature of Lan connected workstations by XenDesktop.  So what VMWare is saying is that they are almost the same user experience&#8230;nevermind about things like remote users, wifi connected users, high graphic/HD users.  So in short the latest version of VDM now View are nearly on par (with noted exceptions) with the XD released two versions ago&#8230;  That is like saying that XenServer 5.0 is nearly equivalent with ESX 3.5 update 2&#8230;  Oh and XenServer is free with XenDesktop. hmmm makes you rethink what this article is stating</p>
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