Comments on: vSphere licensing notables http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/04/21/vsphere-licensing-notables/ Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:01:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Chris http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/04/21/vsphere-licensing-notables/comment-page-1/#comment-806 Chris Thu, 21 May 2009 15:43:42 +0000 http://www.boche.net/blog/?p=1365#comment-806 Well, one important thing is that they included license restrictions based on the cores on a physical CPU. This is a big change and I think it will push more customers away from VMWare. With newer CPUs the new restrictions will be reached easily and the additional cost is prohibitive. VMWare could use the current recession to blow the competition away by keeping prices/licensing where it was or even lower it a bit. But instead they go the opposite direction. Well, customers will go the opposite direction, too. It might just not be the direction VMWare might expect. If I have the choice between a Lexus and Toyota, I might choose the Toyota and still get a great bang for the buck because in these days driving a Lexus would be nice, but not financially wise ... Well, one important thing is that they included license restrictions based on the cores on a physical CPU. This is a big change and I think it will push more customers away from VMWare. With newer CPUs the new restrictions will be reached easily and the additional cost is prohibitive.

VMWare could use the current recession to blow the competition away by keeping prices/licensing where it was or even lower it a bit. But instead they go the opposite direction. Well, customers will go the opposite direction, too. It might just not be the direction VMWare might expect. If I have the choice between a Lexus and Toyota, I might choose the Toyota and still get a great bang for the buck because in these days driving a Lexus would be nice, but not financially wise …

]]> By: Welcome to vSphere-land! » Licensing & Pricing Links http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/04/21/vsphere-licensing-notables/comment-page-1/#comment-804 Welcome to vSphere-land! » Licensing & Pricing Links Wed, 20 May 2009 22:46:12 +0000 http://www.boche.net/blog/?p=1365#comment-804 [...] the vSphere launch event vSphere licensing & technology - Communities Roundtable podcast #44 vSphere Licensing Notables Breaking Down vSphere Pricing vSphere 4 – So What is new? 6 cores limitation per socket for [...] [...] the vSphere launch event vSphere licensing & technology – Communities Roundtable podcast #44 vSphere Licensing Notables Breaking Down vSphere Pricing vSphere 4 – So What is new? 6 cores limitation per socket for [...]

]]> By: vSphere 4 pricing and licensing « UP2V http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/04/21/vsphere-licensing-notables/comment-page-1/#comment-775 vSphere 4 pricing and licensing « UP2V Thu, 07 May 2009 08:12:55 +0000 http://www.boche.net/blog/?p=1365#comment-775 [...] http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/04/21/vsphere-licensing-notables/ [...] [...] http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/04/21/vsphere-licensing-notables/ [...]

]]> By: Allen http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/04/21/vsphere-licensing-notables/comment-page-1/#comment-765 Allen Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:04:53 +0000 http://www.boche.net/blog/?p=1365#comment-765 Regarding FT being included in the Mid to Enterprise class licensing tiers and not being license per VM... I think that is a good move. As far as I'm concerned, this feature is quite limited in the fact that it only works with VMs that have only 1 vCPU (unless this has changed, but I've not read anything of that nature). My guess is that the majority of workloads that require the sort of uptime that FT can provide are going to have at least two vCPUs... Regarding FT being included in the Mid to Enterprise class licensing tiers and not being license per VM…

I think that is a good move. As far as I’m concerned, this feature is quite limited in the fact that it only works with VMs that have only 1 vCPU (unless this has changed, but I’ve not read anything of that nature). My guess is that the majority of workloads that require the sort of uptime that FT can provide are going to have at least two vCPUs…

]]> By: VirtualPro » VSphere Launch - What to make of it all http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/04/21/vsphere-licensing-notables/comment-page-1/#comment-762 VirtualPro » VSphere Launch - What to make of it all Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:07:48 +0000 http://www.boche.net/blog/?p=1365#comment-762 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: Chris http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/04/21/vsphere-licensing-notables/comment-page-1/#comment-746 Chris Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:52:02 +0000 http://www.boche.net/blog/?p=1365#comment-746 Note that the Enterprise Edition can only be ordered up to 15 December 2009, after which time it will apparently be discontinued.... Note that the Enterprise Edition can only be ordered up to 15 December 2009, after which time it will apparently be discontinued….

]]> By: Jimmy http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/04/21/vsphere-licensing-notables/comment-page-1/#comment-744 Jimmy Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:45:15 +0000 http://www.boche.net/blog/?p=1365#comment-744 Not a SMB _OR_ you can't afford to buy all-new high-end quad-core dual proc systems and brand new big drives that more than 5 VMs per server can be loaded on without troublesome negative performance impacts to some applications. What about SMBs that don't want to spend an arm and a leg to get all brand new hardware, just to perform some consolidation? Not a SMB _OR_ you can’t afford to buy all-new high-end quad-core dual proc systems and brand new big drives that more than 5 VMs per server can be loaded on without troublesome negative performance impacts to some applications.

What about SMBs that don’t want to spend an arm and a leg to get all brand new hardware, just to perform some consolidation?

]]> By: vSphere Announced. Now What For VMware Customers? | VM /ETC http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/04/21/vsphere-licensing-notables/comment-page-1/#comment-742 vSphere Announced. Now What For VMware Customers? | VM /ETC Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:46:58 +0000 http://www.boche.net/blog/?p=1365#comment-742 [...] Jason Boche points out some deeper details about the new licensing in his post vSphere licensing notables. [...] [...] Jason Boche points out some deeper details about the new licensing in his post vSphere licensing notables. [...]

]]> By: VMWare Vsphere « Justin Brodleys Blog http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/04/21/vsphere-licensing-notables/comment-page-1/#comment-739 VMWare Vsphere « Justin Brodleys Blog Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:22:35 +0000 http://www.boche.net/blog/?p=1365#comment-739 [...] your ESX hosts and ESX Network switches you have to spend an additional $700.00 per processor. On Jason Boche’s blog he indicated that you would need Enterprise Plus to also get pluggable storage adaptors, which [...] [...] your ESX hosts and ESX Network switches you have to spend an additional $700.00 per processor. On Jason Boche’s blog he indicated that you would need Enterprise Plus to also get pluggable storage adaptors, which [...]

]]> By: Jim http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/04/21/vsphere-licensing-notables/comment-page-1/#comment-737 Jim Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:59:24 +0000 http://www.boche.net/blog/?p=1365#comment-737 I've gotta believe that if you require more than 3 hosts with the current consolidation ratios that are available you're probably not a "SMB" anymore and are pushing the mid-size enterprise. My 3 node cluster (we have 3.5 mid-size accleration kit with 3 ESX Enterprise and 1 vCenter Server Foundation) holds around 25 VMs and I could easily run another 25 VMs without overstepping my HA constraints. The consolidation ratios in vSphere 4 are purported to be even higher than VI3.5. FT is really an enterprise technology positioned to be a great alternate to using MS or Veritias clustering services for workloads that need a 99.9999% SLA, and that sort of SLA just doesn't reasonably fit any SMB I've worked with in the past 15 years. Out of the 25 servers we currently have running, only one of them is really a potential candidate for using FT due to the extra cluster resources required. I’ve gotta believe that if you require more than 3 hosts with the current consolidation ratios that are available you’re probably not a “SMB” anymore and are pushing the mid-size enterprise. My 3 node cluster (we have 3.5 mid-size accleration kit with 3 ESX Enterprise and 1 vCenter Server Foundation) holds around 25 VMs and I could easily run another 25 VMs without overstepping my HA constraints. The consolidation ratios in vSphere 4 are purported to be even higher than VI3.5.

FT is really an enterprise technology positioned to be a great alternate to using MS or Veritias clustering services for workloads that need a 99.9999% SLA, and that sort of SLA just doesn’t reasonably fit any SMB I’ve worked with in the past 15 years. Out of the 25 servers we currently have running, only one of them is really a potential candidate for using FT due to the extra cluster resources required.

]]> By: jason http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/04/21/vsphere-licensing-notables/comment-page-1/#comment-736 jason Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:57:09 +0000 http://www.boche.net/blog/?p=1365#comment-736 You are right. I neglected to distinguish between the SMB and Mid to Enterprise tiers when I made the statement that FT was included in all tiers but Standard edition. Corrected and thank you. You are right. I neglected to distinguish between the SMB and Mid to Enterprise tiers when I made the statement that FT was included in all tiers but Standard edition. Corrected and thank you.

]]> By: Tom http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2009/04/21/vsphere-licensing-notables/comment-page-1/#comment-735 Tom Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:50:01 +0000 http://www.boche.net/blog/?p=1365#comment-735 FT does not appear to be offered in either 'Essentials' version -- the cheap version. I think VMware is really not interested in the SMB market, though they will take what they can get. The way the pricing and features etc. are done, I think I really have to look at XenServer, because they have plenty of time to do 'enough' catching up to VMware in terms of providing a XenServer package suitable to SMBs without the 3-host limit, which I think is the worst possible feature in the Essentials Suite. FT does not appear to be offered in either ‘Essentials’ version — the cheap version.
I think VMware is really not interested in the SMB market, though they will take what they can get.
The way the pricing and features etc. are done, I think I really have to look at XenServer, because they have plenty of time to do ‘enough’ catching up to VMware in terms of providing a XenServer package suitable to SMBs without the 3-host limit, which I think is the worst possible feature in the Essentials Suite.

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