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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2010/04/07/no-failback-bug-in-esxi/comment-page-1/#comment-1809</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update 4/27/10:  The no failback issue has been root-caused by VMware and a fix has been constructed and is being tested. It will be triaged for a future release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update 4/27/10:  The no failback issue has been root-caused by VMware and a fix has been constructed and is being tested. It will be triaged for a future release.</p>
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		<title>By: Virtualization Short Take #38 - blog.scottlowe.org - The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers</title>
		<link>http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2010/04/07/no-failback-bug-in-esxi/comment-page-1/#comment-1789</link>
		<dc:creator>Virtualization Short Take #38 - blog.scottlowe.org - The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Boche describes a bug in the ESX(i) failback behavior (or, more appropriately, the no failback behavior) that could have some pretty serious side effects [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Boche describes a bug in the ESX(i) failback behavior (or, more appropriately, the no failback behavior) that could have some pretty serious side effects [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2010/04/07/no-failback-bug-in-esxi/comment-page-1/#comment-1784</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We definitely examined the terminology.  Like I said, I waited several weeks on this before I posted to be sure everyone was on the same page.   VMware has confirmed it a bug in that the &quot;no failback&quot; should function whether or not there are standby adapters.  

At the very least, if what you are saying is true, then there would be a UI issue because without a standby adapter, the Failback option should be grayed out.  I also submitted this piece of information to VMware.  They acknowledged it but said that the Failback mechanism is supposed function as selected with or without standby adapters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We definitely examined the terminology.  Like I said, I waited several weeks on this before I posted to be sure everyone was on the same page.   VMware has confirmed it a bug in that the &#8220;no failback&#8221; should function whether or not there are standby adapters.  </p>
<p>At the very least, if what you are saying is true, then there would be a UI issue because without a standby adapter, the Failback option should be grayed out.  I also submitted this piece of information to VMware.  They acknowledged it but said that the Failback mechanism is supposed function as selected with or without standby adapters.</p>
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		<title>By: Packet Racer</title>
		<link>http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2010/04/07/no-failback-bug-in-esxi/comment-page-1/#comment-1783</link>
		<dc:creator>Packet Racer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Duncan.  I don&#039;t consider it a bug because in my opinion the &quot;No failback&quot; option only counts when your load balancing is set to &quot;Explicit failover order&quot;.  Unless you specify &quot;Explicit failover order&quot; then the vSwitch will do load balancing.  The behavior you observed with half of the VMs becoming unpingable is consistent with port ID based load balancing.  You should re-try your experiment with load balancing turned off, if you haven&#039;t done so already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Duncan.  I don&#8217;t consider it a bug because in my opinion the &#8220;No failback&#8221; option only counts when your load balancing is set to &#8220;Explicit failover order&#8221;.  Unless you specify &#8220;Explicit failover order&#8221; then the vSwitch will do load balancing.  The behavior you observed with half of the VMs becoming unpingable is consistent with port ID based load balancing.  You should re-try your experiment with load balancing turned off, if you haven&#8217;t done so already.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2010/04/07/no-failback-bug-in-esxi/comment-page-1/#comment-1774</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This blog post is about the failback: no option not working correctly.  Whether set at the vSwitch or Portgroup level, configuring failback to no still allows a recovered VMNIC to take on traffic.  The only way to make this work correctly is to configure at least 1 VMNIC as a Standby adapter in conjunction with configuring failback to no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog post is about the failback: no option not working correctly.  Whether set at the vSwitch or Portgroup level, configuring failback to no still allows a recovered VMNIC to take on traffic.  The only way to make this work correctly is to configure at least 1 VMNIC as a Standby adapter in conjunction with configuring failback to no.</p>
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		<title>By: NiTRo</title>
		<link>http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2010/04/07/no-failback-bug-in-esxi/comment-page-1/#comment-1773</link>
		<dc:creator>NiTRo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, can you explain &quot;does not work in this case&quot; ? I usualy do this on my enclosures to be sure my vmotion port group will always be on the same nic and so the vmotion trafic won&#039;t go out of the same enclosure switch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, can you explain &#8220;does not work in this case&#8221; ? I usualy do this on my enclosures to be sure my vmotion port group will always be on the same nic and so the vmotion trafic won&#8217;t go out of the same enclosure switch.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2010/04/07/no-failback-bug-in-esxi/comment-page-1/#comment-1772</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nitro, overriding the vswitch policy at the portgroup level does not work in this case.  If you see differently, please let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nitro, overriding the vswitch policy at the portgroup level does not work in this case.  If you see differently, please let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2010/04/07/no-failback-bug-in-esxi/comment-page-1/#comment-1771</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan, I worked quite a bit with VMware support on this to be sure the behavior we were seeing was contra what the documentation described and thus the feature is not working as designed.  Having a clear understanding of the feature was the reason I delayed this post for a few weeks.  I wanted to be absolutely sure I was not falsely reporting a VMware bug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan, I worked quite a bit with VMware support on this to be sure the behavior we were seeing was contra what the documentation described and thus the feature is not working as designed.  Having a clear understanding of the feature was the reason I delayed this post for a few weeks.  I wanted to be absolutely sure I was not falsely reporting a VMware bug.</p>
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		<title>By: NiTRo</title>
		<link>http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2010/04/07/no-failback-bug-in-esxi/comment-page-1/#comment-1769</link>
		<dc:creator>NiTRo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, indeed it&#039;s a shame but in your case it is possible to set standby adapter and no failback on the vswitch and only override the network policies for the VM port groups. I know it&#039;s not enough and i really can&#039;t understand why VMware isn&#039;t respond to this bug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, indeed it&#8217;s a shame but in your case it is possible to set standby adapter and no failback on the vswitch and only override the network policies for the VM port groups. I know it&#8217;s not enough and i really can&#8217;t understand why VMware isn&#8217;t respond to this bug.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.boche.net/blog/index.php/2010/04/07/no-failback-bug-in-esxi/comment-page-1/#comment-1766</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am bit surprised this is labelled as a bug as I always thought it was working as designed because of the following bit in our documentation: &quot;If failback is set to Yes (default), the adapter is returned to active duty immediately upon recovery, displacing the standby adapter that took over its slot, if any.&quot;

The keyword here is the word &quot;standby&quot;. I assumed it only applied in an active/standby scenario.

Keep us up to date,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am bit surprised this is labelled as a bug as I always thought it was working as designed because of the following bit in our documentation: &#8220;If failback is set to Yes (default), the adapter is returned to active duty immediately upon recovery, displacing the standby adapter that took over its slot, if any.&#8221;</p>
<p>The keyword here is the word &#8220;standby&#8221;. I assumed it only applied in an active/standby scenario.</p>
<p>Keep us up to date,</p>
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